TeX Live and MacTeX ⇒ ubuntu kile texlive: tlmgr absent

[louisJ]

Hi

I just installed Kile (and Texlive at the same time) on Ubuntu 10.10.
However I can't find the package manager tlmgr.
lcoate tlmgr give no results.

Any idea where is it?

thanks

[frabjous]

The Ubuntu packages for TeXlive do not include tlmgr, since using a distinct package manager specifically for TeXlive might break Ubuntu's own packaging system. You could uninstall the Ubuntu packages, and then install TeXlive directly from TUG/CTAN, and then you'd have it (but you'd risk dependency problems with other LaTeX related packages, e.g., editors and converters installed through Ubuntu's package managers, including Kile). Or you could try to achieve what you want to achieve in some other way.

Out of curiousity, what were you hoping to use tlmgr to do?

[louisJ]

thanks for your answer.

I want to install packages that are not in the default texlive-extra (like empheq for example or others).

Is it possible to use the ubuntu package manager to do this?

thanks

[frabjous]

From what I remember the texlive-full Debian/Ubuntu package has everything on CTAN on it, so that would be one extreme way of getting those other packages. (It's huge though, so if you're hurting on space, that might not be the way to go.)

You can also install individual packages locally by creating a ~/texmf/ folder, installing packages manually and running sudo texhash afterwards. Instructions here.

But there might be an intermediate package that has what you need. Have you looked through the list, e.g., here?

[louisJ]

Yes textlive-full is huge and I'd like to avoid that.

Ok I followed the link to install packages locally:
I made a ~/texmf/ directory and downloaded mh.zip into it (which contains empheq), unzipped, and put the directory mh into ~/texmf/tex/latex.
Into ~/texmf/tex/latex/mh I used the command tex with the *.dtx files.
then sudo texhash ~/texmf/

After I restart Kile, still the same missing package error with empheq:
! LaTeX Error: File `empheq.sty' not found.

[frabjous]

From this page, it looks like the Ubuntu/Debian package texlive-latex3 contains the "empheq" package. (Don't ask me why it's in that one.) You might try that.

When I get a chance, and have access to my wife's computer (which still has Ubuntu on a partition, I think...), I'll try the manual installation, but the above would be easier, if it worked.

[louisJ]

yes thank you, it works with texlive-latex3.
I guess that'll do for now, but I'll have to get familiar with the installation of just package one day.

Too bad Ubuntu's version of TeXlive does not include tlmgr, as TUG's version does. I wonder if it is possible to install tlmgr anyway, separately.
Too bad there is no latex package manager for linux 64bit, cause there is Miktex for linux 32bit.

Thank you very much for your great assistance.

[frabjous]

Too bad Ubuntu's version of TeXlive does not include tlmgr, as TUG's version does. I wonder if it is possible to install tlmgr anyway, separately.

Back when I used Ubuntu, I used to install LaTeX directly from TUG, so I'd have tlmgr, and then I'd create a Dummy .deb package to satisfy Ubuntu's dependencies. There are instructions--though dated and probably in need of updating--for doing so in this TeXblog post. As an added bonus, then, I wouldn't be a year behind. (You're still using TeXlive 2009 on Ubuntu, but TeXlive 2010 has been out for a few months now.) It can be kind of a hassle, though, especially if you you re-install the entire OS with each Ubuntu release, like I used to.

I actually continue to the same thing on Arch linux, which is what I use now. I install from TUG, then create a dummy pac-man package to satisfy dependencies in Arch's package system.

Too bad there is no latex package manager for linux 64bit, cause there is Miktex for linux 32bit.

MikTeX on linux? I'm fairly sure MikTeX is only for Windows.

TeXlive is the only (modern) LaTeX distribution I know of for linux, and tlmgr the only LaTeX-specific package manager, and it's equally available for 32 bit and 64 bit linux. I'm using it on 64 bit linux right now.

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[frabjous]

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Thorsten

Wow, that's interesting. Thanks to the two of you for the heads up.

The source code is there. Has anyone tried compiling it on 64-bit linux?