Page Layout ⇒ change papersize in mid document and also fill the page

[AndreGismo]

Hello Community,

I am looking for a way to change the papersize (normally A4 to A3 for one page) in my document. I need this, because I want to explicitly write out a big matrix in the appendix (I know, I could use things like

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to compress the matrix, but I want to show the whole matrix, as I think, it is important for a good understanding of what I am doing).

I have found several approaches, like:
- here
- or here

But they don't match my needs: they change the paper size, but the area for the text on the new page doesn't really change.

In my case I get an A3-page in landscape format - ok, that is good.
BUT:
- The text seems to be aligned to the text on the A4-page in portrait format, so I can't even use the new gained place
- The page number appears in the middle of the page (I guess at the same position, where it used to be on the former A4-page) thus messing up my matrix, because one could think that it is an element of the matrix.

Another "problem": the approach uses Koma-Script, and it seems that it doesn't get along with the

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I use for headers and footers in the finaly document. That is what I have learned in a Latex-Beginner-Corse. When I asked the same question to the lecturer he said: "oh, that's Koma-Script. Better stick to 'normal' Latex". And I think I could create a nice document just using 'normal' Latex - even the template of my university just uses 'normal' Latex. So It would be great, if there is a solution to my answer using just the 'normal' Latex.

I try to show you a working minimal example (but I'm not shure, if I'm using the correct command - please excuse me, I'm completely new to this forum and LaTeX):

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\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel} % für deutsche Namen (Zusammenfassung statt Abstract z.B.)
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} % ermöglicht Umlaute
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % 5 ermöglicht Umlaute
\usepackage{color} % ermöglicht farbigen Text
\usepackage{setspace} \onehalfspacing % generelle Einstellung für Abstände zwischen Zeilen
\usepackage[a4paper]{typearea} % für Einstellungen von Rändern
\usepackage{hyperref} % für klickbare Verweise
\usepackage{amsmath, amssymb}
%\geometry{left=3cm,right=3.5cm,top=3cm,bottom=3cm}
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
\setcounter{MaxMatrixCols}{20}
\begin{document}
\section{Hello World}
Some text .......
On the following side comes the big matrix:
\newpage
% I even have to use A2 to make it fit on the paper
% if it was possible to correctly use the available place
% a A3-page would suffice
\KOMAoptions{paper=A2,paper=landscape}
\recalctypearea
\begin{equation}
    \begin{pmatrix}
        Z_1 & Z_1 + Z_2 & Z_1 + Z_2 + Z_3 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
        1 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
        u_{1,1} & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
        0 & u_{1,2} & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
        0 & 0 & u_{1,3} & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
        u_{1,1} \cdot \Delta t & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & -1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
        0 & u_{1,2} \cdot \Delta t & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & -1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
        0 & 0 & u_{1,3} \cdot \Delta t & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & -1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
        %
        0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & Z_1 & Z_1 + Z_2 & Z_1 + Z_2 + Z_3 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
        0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
        0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & u_{2,1} & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
        0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & u_{2,2} & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
 
 
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Thank you for any help in advance!!

[Ijon Tichy]

Unfortunately your code is not marked correctly as block code. Because of this, I cannot test and modify it in the online editor/compiler of latex.org. However, as you are using package typearea, I can tell you, that the example in section 20.2 of the German scrguide (unfortunately the English scrguien of KOMA-Script up to version 3.34 uses a much simpler example without paper size change) does show you how to change the page size and increase the text area. From KOMA-Script 3.35 the English manual shows and explains the same example. But despite in KOMA-Script 3.34 it is in German available only, you should be able to test the example and understand it. If you do not understand German, you should read and test the example in the English scrguien first. Then you should also be able to understand the German example. The manual also describes an option usegeometry, if you like to mix typearea's skill to change the paper size, with geometry's user interface to change margins and the text area more.

BTW: \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} is not recommended, it is a very bad idea. See "How to correctly prevent paragraph indentation" (or in German „Wie der Absatzeinzug korrekt verhindert wird“ for more information.

BTW2: \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} is not needed any longer since LaTeX 2018/04/01.

BTW3: hyperref should be loaded as late as possible, i.e. after amsmath, because it has to patch commands of several other packages, e.g., of amsmath, and can doe this only, if it is loaded after those packages.

BTW4: Is seems your lecturer does not know a lot about LaTeX ad KOMA-Script. KOMA-Script is normal LaTeX. KOMA-Script classes are not the standard LaTeX classes, but they are still LaTeX. Using KOMA-Script classes or packages does not differ from using other classes or packages, e.g., geometry or tikz. And if the non-standard LaTeX package fancyhdr has problems with pagesize changes, maybe the KOMA-Script LaTeX package scrlayer-scrpage would be an alternative, because it can handle such changes. But maybe we can also fix a problem with fancyhdr, if you show it in a new question.

Without using the KOMA-Script package typearea my only idea is to generate the page as a stand-alone document and load it using pdfpages, because the also non-standard LaTeX package geometry is not able to change the paper size on its own. But maybe you simply should ask the lecturer, how to change the paper size inside a document without using a non-standard LaTeX package?

[AndreGismo]

@ Ijon Tichy: wow, thank you for the quick answer!

Unfortunately your code is not marked correctly as block code. Because of this, I cannot test and modify it in the online editor/compiler of latex.org.

Yes, I'm sorry, I thought I have to use the LaTeX-Button to create an executable version, but someone hat allready fixed this, thank you @Stefan Kottwitz ! In the future I will know how to create correct working examples with the code-tag.

Despite it is in German, you should be able to test the example and understand it.

Don't worry, german is my native language
I will definitely have a look at this example!

BTW: \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} is not recommended, it is a very bad idea. See "How to correctly prevent paragraph indentation" (or in German „Wie der Absatzeinzug korrekt verhindert wird“ for more information.

BTW2: \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} is not needed any longer since LaTeX 2018/04/01.

BTW3: hyperref should be loaded as late as possible, i.e. after amsmath, because it has to patch commands of several other packages, e.g., of amsmath, and can doe this only, if it is loaded after those packages.

Thank you! I didn't know all of this.

BTW4: Is seems your lecturer does not know a lot about LaTeX ad KOMA-Script.

Haha, yes, this might actually be true

Yes, it seems, I have to consider using KOMA-Script. I have seen the documentation here and I was hoping, I could just skip these pages and proceed using Latex without KOMA-script. But that is ok, it seems, KOMA-script really has some advantages.

Anyway, thank you again for helping out a beginner!
I will have a further look into the KOMA-script documentation and the examples you have mentioned.
Maybe I will be able to make it work on my own. If some qestions remain, I will come back with an executable example.

[Ijon Tichy]

I have seen the documentation here

Be careful, the linked document is a very old version of the KOMA-Script manual. It is not valid for the current version of KOMA-Script. You should ignore it.

See "How to find the manual for KOMA-Script classes and packages" (or „Wie die Anleitung zu KOMA-Script-Klassen und -Paketen zu finden ist“) for more information about getting manuals of an installed packages or of up-to-date package versions (not only the manual of KOMA-Script).

BTW: There are many more HowTo pages in English and in German at the KOMA-Script wiki.

[Stefan Kottwitz]

Don't worry, german is my native language

So you could also visit us on TeXwelt.de or goLaTeX.de if you like.

Stefan

[AndreGismo]

Don't worry, german is my native language

So you could also visit us on TeXwelt.de or goLaTeX.de if you like.

Stefan

Ah ok, thank you for the hint! I will definitely give it a try for the next questions (they are allready in the pipe ).

[AndreGismo]

I have tried the example mentioned by Ion Tichy, and it almost works as expected, I have also managed to switch back to A4 from A3. But now the only problem remaining is, the typearea isn't computed accordingly (so the text goes outside the page). I have tried to use\recalctytearea or \typearea[current]{last} as an alternative (as mentioned here), but it doesn't work.

Here is my example:

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\documentclass[areasetadvanced]{scrartcl}
\usepackage[automark, headsepline=true, footsepline=true]{scrlayer-scrpage}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
\usepackage{amsmath, amssymb}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{hyperref}  % erst so spät wie möglich einbinden
\areaset[current]{\textwidth}{\textheight}
\begin{document}
%\noindent\rule{\textwidth}{\textheight}
\thispagestyle{empty}
\section*{Kurzfassung}
\lipsum[1-2]
\newpage
\tableofcontents
\newpage
\section{Einleitung}
\lipsum[1-6]
\KOMAoption{paper}{a3, landscape}
\areaset[current]{\dimexpr\textwidth+.5\paperwidth\relax}{\textheight}
\lipsum[7-18]
\clearpage
\KOMAoption{paper}{a4, portrait}
\areaset[current]{\textwidth}{\textheight}
% hiermit sollte doch eigentlich wieder der passende Satzspiegel errechnet werden
\typearea[current]{last}
%\recalctypearea  % Alternative
\section{Weiterer Anhang}
\lipsum[2-7]
\end{document}
 
 
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Is there a way, to correctly calculate the typearea?

[Ijon Tichy]

You don't need to recalculate the typing area. Just use \storeareas\meinegespeichertenWerte before changing the paper size and \clearpage\meinegespeichertenWerte as shown in the example in the scrguide:

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\documentclass[areasetadvanced]{scrartcl}
\usepackage[automark, headsepline=true, footsepline=true]{scrlayer-scrpage}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
\usepackage{amsmath, amssymb}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{hyperref}  % erst so spät wie möglich einbinden
\areaset[current]{\textwidth}{\textheight}
\begin{document}
%\noindent\rule{\textwidth}{\textheight}
\thispagestyle{empty}
\section*{Kurzfassung}
\lipsum[1-2]
\newpage
\tableofcontents
\newpage
\section{Einleitung}
\lipsum[1-6]
\storeareas\meinegespeichertenWerte% store the current typing area in \meinegespeichertenWerte
\KOMAoption{paper}{a3, landscape}
\areaset[current]{\dimexpr\textwidth+.5\paperwidth\relax}{\textheight}
\lipsum[7-18]
\clearpage
\meinegespeichertenWerte%restore the typing area, that was valid at \storeareas\meinegespeichertenWerte
\section{Weiterer Anhang}
\lipsum[2-7]
\end{document}
 
 
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\textwidth is the current with of the text area. \textheight the current height. So \areaset[current]{\textwidth}{\textheight} does try to recalculate margins for the current settings of these values. This cannot work here after changing the page size.

\typearea[current]{last} cannot work here, because the last calculation was a \areaset calculation.

You could store the \textwidth and \textheight from the initial \aereaset command and repeat this with the stored values. But usage of \storearea is easier and designed for this. And it would also work after changes of the typing area without using package typearea, e.g., using geometry.

[Stefan Kottwitz]

Hi Andre,

I will definitely give it a try for the next questions (they are allready in the pipe ).

I like this, because questions are the foundation of such web forums. Without questions, it would be very silent. Quick thoughts: TeXwelt.de is for clear questions that can have a clear answer, goLaTeX.de is better for discussions or broad or unclear issues. In any case, full (but short) code is appreciated.

Stefan

[AndreGismo]

You don't need to recalculate the typing area. Just use \storeareas\meinegespeichertenWerte before changing the paper size and \clearpage\meinegespeichertenWerte as shown in the example in the scrguide:

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\documentclass[areasetadvanced]{scrartcl}
\usepackage[automark, headsepline=true, footsepline=true]{scrlayer-scrpage}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
\usepackage{amsmath, amssymb}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{hyperref}  % erst so spät wie möglich einbinden
\areaset[current]{\textwidth}{\textheight}
\begin{document}
%\noindent\rule{\textwidth}{\textheight}
\thispagestyle{empty}
\section*{Kurzfassung}
\lipsum[1-2]
\newpage
\tableofcontents
\newpage
\section{Einleitung}
\lipsum[1-6]
\storeareas\meinegespeichertenWerte% store the current typing area in \meinegespeichertenWerte
\KOMAoption{paper}{a3, landscape}
\areaset[current]{\dimexpr\textwidth+.5\paperwidth\relax}{\textheight}
\lipsum[7-18]
\clearpage
\meinegespeichertenWerte%restore the typing area, that was valid at \storeareas\meinegespeichertenWerte
\section{Weiterer Anhang}
\lipsum[2-7]
\end{document}
 
 
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Additional explanation:

\textwidth is the current with of the text area. \textheight the current height. So \areaset[current]{\textwidth}{\textheight} does try to recalculate margins for the current settings of these values. This cannot work here after changing the page size.

\typearea[current]{last} cannot work here, because the last calculation was a \areaset calculation.

You could store the \textwidth and \textheight from the initial \aereaset command and repeat this with the stored values. But usage of \storearea is easier and designed for this. And it would also work after changes of the typing area without using package typearea, e.g., using geometry.

Ah perfect, thank you!

I didn't know what this \meinegespeichertenWerte was supposed to be - I thouhgt it was some variable declared outside the example, that's why I left it away. So you just store the values with \storeareas. Yeah, sounds logic if I think about it

Thank you for your efforts, that helps me a lot!